Pedro e Larissa

 TERTÚLIA LITERARIA:

Nome: Larissa Marra e Pedro Tavares

Turma e Turno: Estudos Linguístico-Discursivos em Língua Inglesa IV – N1 (Noturno)

Milk and Honey – Rupi Kaur

Poema escolhido: 

My name sounds so good

French kissing your tongue

Intertexto:

Reading this poem, we started thinking about the essence of a name in a language, and how it can be modified by our feelings towards the person represented by that name. We related this poem with a poem that Pedro wrote a long time ago, about the resonance of the loved person’s name within the one that loves. In many languages, words that signify language are also the ones that signify tongue (for example, “língua” in Portuguese or “язык” in Russian). With this in mind, we decided to write another poem, based on both the poem from Milk and Honey, by Rupi Kaur, and the poem written by Pedro. 

The poem is, in essence, about how some words are more important than others, especially when it’s the name of the person we love.

The poem we used to establish the intertext is: 

“Seu nome chega no meu ouvido

Que nem uma serpente

Esse som

Nesse tom próprio

Ecoa em mim

E dança

Entro em transe: 

Só existe você nesse nome”

                                                  -Pedro Tavares

Produção Artística: 

I know very few words:

Even fewer,

Just one

I’m really glad

That on the tip of my tongue

There is and always will be

You

                                                -Pedro Tavares e Larissa Marra

The First Stop - AMETISTA

 Poema:

“You 

have been

taught your legs

are a pit stop for men

that need a place to rest

a vacant body empty enough

for guests but no one

ever comes and is

willing to

stay”

Escolhi esse poema pois me identifico muito com ele que desde que era criança sempre fui muito afeminado e sempre me disseram que eu iria ser gay ou como uma tia minha gostava de falar “fingir ser mulher” além de sempre levar broncas dela sobre meu comportamento mais afeminado e ouvir que se eu quisesse ser mulher teria que dar prazer a um homem. 

Intertexto: 

Como intertexto escolhi o álbum “Preacher’s Daughter” da Ethel Cain onde ela uma mulher trans relata como foi abusada por seu pai que é um pastor quando criança pois demonstrava um comportamento mais feminino e ele fala que ser Ethel quisesse ser mulher precisava aprender a lidar com essas situações, fiz o intertexto na maior parte com a música “Ptolemaea” onde ela relata como foi esse abuso, na parte final da música ela grita diversas vezes “stop”, além de trazer uma importante frase “What fear a man like you brings upon a woman like me”, mostrando um verdadeiro sentimento de terror e em sua voz percebe-se o perigo que ela estava sofrendo.

Click aqui para ouvir o álbum: https://youtu.be/8Efh7tKNliU  

Agora deixo aqui meu conto com vocês onde eu retrato a busca por um amor após anos de sofrimento e angustia.

“The First Stop” 

I always believed in love such a powerful energy that's rare to those who don’t know this feeling but is real for those who seek for it, I tried to find these feeling but no one stopped to see me, my mom always told me if this was the patch I would chose I would be unhappy, but she didn’t realize that is not a patch is my life and I didn’t choose this, I’m just like that and that’s okay but for some time I believed what she said and then you came and changed my whole world, I believed you were my lover, you were the first who stopped and saw my as I am and this were the first time I could see me too and love who I was and who I am. You taught me what love is and showed me for the first time how it’s to be loved but as fast as you came you were gone and left me alone with all this new world that I discovered. I'm thankful for this “first stop” and I’m ready to receive others.  

Intertextuality between "To fathers with daughters" and "Open letter to my dad"

Warning: This post may trigger negative emotions!

Aviso: Esse post pode causar gatilhos!

Estudos Linguístico-Discursivos em Língua Inglesa IV - Matutino

Written by Isabella Monteiro de Almeida & Lindemberg Alexander Karon.

RGM: 25907760 & 26410907

Poem:

every time you

tell your daughter

you yell at her

out of love

you teach her to confuse

anger with kindness

which seems like a good idea

till she grows up to

trust men who hurt her

cause they look so much

like you

to fathers with daughters - rupi kaur

Reference: KAUR, Rupi. Milk and Honey. Andrews McMeel Publishing, 2015. 

Artistic Production:

Open Letter To My Dad

Father, where were you when I needed you the most?

All the men I met were the same

Looking for love, more pain and misery

Always haunted by your ghost

Growing up was a decline

When you came along it was all violence

I had to learn to live without love

With bad memories coming back instead

Telling me that I can't do anything

Yelling at me all the time

As if I had no feelings

Is this not a crime?

I stayed strong and I've moved on,

Sometimes I still feel the pain in my heart,

But now I know that men aren't the same

And I'll show that I can be loved.

by Isabella Almeida


Intertext:

After reading Rupi Kaur’s book, we had many feelings. So, Isabella decided to write a poem and then we wrote this intertext together.

To Fathers With Daughters by Rupi Kaur shows the reader the pain of a daughter who is repressed by her father with an education based on the psychology of fear, when, in this case, yelling is a kind of education and which is also considered “love”. It confuses the girl, she mixes anger with kindness and this can and will affect her when she starts a relationship. We can interpret the poem as a cycle. From To Fathers With Daughters, Isabella Almeida had the inspiration to make a poem called Open Letter To My Dad. This letter constructs a narrative of the father’s absence in his daughter’s life even though he is physically present. Love, care and affection were scarce, but hurt and violence marked her life.

Ps: this poem isn’t based in real life.

The relationship between father and daughter in both works is the most important narrative. They share a feeling of loneliness and loving absence from their father. Thus, when the girl grows up, she’ll only meet men who are like their dad: violent and abusive. We can see this in both poems when Kaur writes  “(...)trust men who hurt her cause they look so much like you” and when Isabella writes “(..)all the men I met were the same/looking for love, more pain and misery”. 

In both stories there is a bad dad and they’re bad men. The stories are about violence, pain and strain, tears, heartbreak and loneliness. Concepts that have been so common in our world nowadays, unfortunately. So, these poems are related to each other by the interpreted story of both. In conclusion, these poems talk about a daughter who has a violent dad and grew up without love, looking for men and they’re all abusive with her. But, in Open Letter To My Dad, this cycle is broken in “(...)but now I know that men aren't the same/and I'll show that I can be loved.”